The Astra gas water heater does not light the main burner. Reviews of geysers Astra

Problems with ignition

Ignition system for a gas water heater

Depending on the ignition systems, problems may include the following:

If you have automatic electronic ignition from batteries, then the reason that the column does not light up (why the Astra gas water heater does not light up:) may be the discharge of the batteries.
These are Bosch, Junkers and Neckar speakers with the letter “B” in the marking, Beretta with the letter “i”, Electrolux GWH 265 ERN, Neva 4510, Neva 4511, Oasis B-12W, Lemax Alpha 20m, Astra 8910-15. The battery charge may be visible on the display, and a special light on the front side of the case may also begin to blink. You should buy new R-size alkaloid batteries. The compartment is usually located in the lower right corner. (If the Lemax gas water heater does not light up, read).
If you have a semi-automatic model, then the piezo ignition wires or the ignition nozzle may be clogged. These are Bosch and Junkers speakers marked “P”, Neva 4011, Neva Lux 5111, Electrolux GWH 350 RN. You need to remove the casing and clean the contacts from dust. A clogged nozzle results in insufficient wick flame to ignite the main burner. It can be cleaned with a thin wire.
Also, the column may not light up if you hold the ignition button long enough. This should be done for 10-20 seconds.
If your speaker is fully automatic and powered from the mains, it may not light up if there is no light in the house. These are Bosch models with the letter “E”, Beret with the symbol “S” in the marking. You need to check the availability of electricity in the house. Such models are equipped with additional elements, such as a power supply, which can also fail.
If the water turbine column does not light up, then the reason is either a breakdown of the electronics or low water pressure.
These are Bosch speakers with the "G" symbol. To check the water pressure, turn on the cold water tap. If the water flows strongly, then most likely some electronic element is not working. It is necessary to call specialists for repairs; the design of such water heaters is complex. If the pressure is weak, you need to call the utility services. You can see where to go below in the entrance.

Also, the column may not ignite due to the fact that the wick or ignition electrodes are in the wrong position. When exposed to high temperatures, column parts may become deformed. So, if the ignition electrodes drop below the burner, it will ignite poorly or not work at all. It is necessary to remove the casing from the column and change the position of the ignition elements.

Troubleshooting

Astra geysers may have any malfunctions. Let's consider what methods can be used to eliminate them.

If the device breaks down, you first need to turn off the gas supply. You can remove the speaker from the wall, or you can not remove it. It will be enough to remove its front part. To do this, you need to unscrew the side bolts with a screwdriver.

Gas water heaters have good burners. Most often the economizer breaks down. It needs to be checked first.

Unscrew the two bolts located at the edges of the device. Check your contacts. They may not work well due to contamination. If the contacts do not work, they must be replaced. After this, the economizer should work or you will have to replace it.

Try to unscrew everything carefully, without touching the pressure measuring fittings.

If the gas heater does not light up, then there may be no draft in the ventilation passage. Turn off the unit and hold a burning match to the chimney. The flame should go into it.

Prepare your repair tools. You can remove scale using regular vinegar.

The hydraulic group in the Astra column may break. It needs to be disconnected and the valves inspected. They must hold firmly. For small shifts, parts must be replaced. When purchasing such parts, be sure to indicate the model of the gas water heater.

Rules for using speakers in apartments

Each Ariston model comes with an instruction manual. The instructions explain in detail the basic rules for using the device, safety standards and much more. If you follow all the manufacturer’s recommendations, the service life of the unit will be longer, and the likelihood of malfunctions and dangerous situations will be less.

Manufacturer's recommendations for use

Basic recommendations for use:

It is not allowed to place foreign objects on the surface of the device.
The device may only be cleaned and repaired when it is disconnected from all power sources (water, gas, electricity).
If foreign odors are detected coming from gas equipment, it must be immediately disconnected from the power supply.
If the combustion products controller fails, the column must not be turned on.

Only if all of the above rules are observed, the use of Ariston gas equipment will be safe.

If the device is used incorrectly and is not properly cared for, this can lead to the most unpredictable consequences, including explosions, fires and fatal poisoning. Therefore, in order to avoid troubles as a result of improper maintenance, it is best to choose a gas company and enter into a maintenance agreement with them.

If you follow all the rules for operating the Ariston gas water heater, it will serve for a long time and without interruption, providing comfort and coziness in the apartment

Safety regulations

The main safety rules that every consumer who has installed an Ariston gas water heater in an apartment (house) should know:

If you smell gas, you should immediately stop using gas appliances and turn off the taps of all devices. After this, you must immediately call the emergency service.
It is not allowed to unauthorizedly carry out gasification of apartments, as well as disconnecting old and connecting new gas appliances.
It is prohibited to allow children of preschool age, as well as incapacitated persons, to use the speaker.
It is not permissible to use kitchens and other rooms where gas equipment is installed for sleeping and relaxing.

In gasified rooms, ventilation ducts must be constantly open, and when using gas appliances, the vents must also be opened.

We discussed more information on safety measures and operating rules for gas equipment in the next article.

What columns can be donated?

Equipment of any type and purpose can be sold as scrap, but the purchase price depends on the condition of the metal. The heat exchanger may contain rust or mechanical contamination - the receiving points allow for clogging in the raw materials. However, before handling, you should check the gas water heater for the presence of fasteners and remove them to increase the cost.

Industrial-scale heating equipment is heavy, so it is more profitable to order the removal of geysers with subsequent purchase. Such a comprehensive package of services will eliminate the need to spend your resources on preparing scrap, and removal is carried out by a processing company.

Error E1 (ignition error)

If you want to know about which geysers (instantaneous water heaters) you should not choose, about the subtleties and nuances of their installation and connection, as well as hidden information on their proper maintenance for all manufacturers and models, then go here -.

But we also have information on this problem and more, which you will not find anywhere, first of all, because it is asked by specific people who could not get more support and advice anywhere (which they themselves tell us). And secondly, their problems are so complex that sometimes our expert Alexander Kholodov takes 10 days or more to deal with people.

And now EVERY question from the user and the answer to it, to avoid financial costs as a result of improper operation or repair of the flow-through heater

And here it doesn’t matter which manufacturer’s device is involved in the issue. The only thing that matters is the unique situation as a result of which this issue arose, because as one good saying goes: “forewarned is forearmed.”

One can only envy the owner of a gas water heater: he always has hot water.

Modern water heaters are very convenient, because just open the water tap and the device will turn on automatically, and even adjust the temperature as needed.

But sometimes events develop according to a less favorable scenario: the user, with increasing irritation, tries an icy stream of water with his hand, but the long-awaited sound that the burner flares up cannot be heard.

You will have to postpone hygiene procedures and try to understand why the gas water heater does not light up. This article will help you find and eliminate the causes of problems.

A gas instantaneous water heater will operate successfully only if all its subsystems are in proper condition. Here is their list:

Water circuit:
This is simply a specially configured pipe (heat exchanger) through which water flows. The main condition for this component is sufficient bandwidth.
Gas burner:
will only work if the valve on the gas supply line is open.
Ignition system:
this is a device that ignites the gas coming from the burner at the right moment. If it malfunctions, the column, of course, will not be able to turn on. Some ignition systems have a pilot burner (pilot).
Smoke removal system:
there should be no insurmountable obstacles on the path of combustion products from the burner itself to the atmosphere. The main part of this system is not a component of the column - it is a vertical or horizontal chimney facing the street.
Automation:
this system includes a whole set of devices and sensors, and they all control the operation of the gas valve.

Automation can be mechanical...:

a membrane installed in the water circuit and connected to the gas valve. Reacts to changes in water pressure;
bimetallic plate. If the pilot burner suddenly goes out, the plate will cool down and cut off the gas supply.

... and electronic:

draft sensor: blocks the gas supply if there is a danger of combustion products entering the room;
flame sensor installed in columns without a pilot burner: triggered when the main burner goes out;
overheat sensor.

Disturbances in the operation of any of the listed systems manifest themselves as follows:

the burner does not light at all;
the flame flares up, but immediately goes out (the gas water heater lights up and goes out);
The igniter cannot be lit.

Let us consider in more detail the reasons causing such phenomena.

Gas equipment is a high-risk device, therefore, according to the regulations, it is carried out by the gas service. See our website for basic installation requirements.

Let's consider the operating principle of a pressure switch for a hydraulic accumulator. We will also look at the adjustment procedure.

Power, ignition system, security system are important criteria that need to be taken into account when choosing a gas water heater. This topic provides a detailed overview of the choice of gas equipment.

Starting the device and adjusting the temperature

To correctly set up hot water in the device, you must:

Open the hot water mixer fully;
Using the water switch, select the required temperature value;
Close the tap.

According to the advice of professionals:

Wait for the moment when the pressure in the line drops, but the column will still work;
Turn the water toggle handle to the maximum;
Turn the gas regulator to the minimum value until the temperature is as desired.

For final preparation, it is worth adjusting the gas supply. To do this, you need to look at the technical data sheet and find out the minimum value for this brand.

The toggle switch is turned to the minimum value.

Turn on the gas supply valve. U" and "Ariston" do this after joining the network. The Oasis, Junkers and Bosch gas water heaters are connected when the batteries are installed.

The hot valve is turned on and the device starts working.

How to adjust the water temperature

Turn on the mixer and check the water heating temperature. It must be twenty-five degrees more than the original one. It is worth noting that the water in a gas boiler heats up gradually. The geyser is adjusted using the gas lever.

Professionals do not recommend heating water above fifty-five degrees. This has a bad effect on the device, as scale forms.

Blood pressure problems

Setting up a geyser requires some time. Accordingly, the result will be visible later. After each stage, it is worth pouring out the water and letting it heat up again so that the values are correct. Low pressure in the device may interfere with normal operation.

If you have problems with blood pressure, you should perform the following manipulations:

Remove the casing from the device;
Loosen the locking bolt, use a pressure gauge to check;
Remove the seal from the adjusting screw;
Turn on the boiler;
Set the values to maximum, unscrew the hot water supply taps;
Adjust the desired pressure.

The Bosch gas water heater, namely its pressure in the nozzles, is regulated in the following way:

Remove the casing;
Attach a pressure gauge;
Loosen the locking screw;
Attach a pressure gauge to check the pressure in the injectors to the nozzle.

Next, the Bosch gas water heater with maximum thermal power is regulated:

Remove the seal from the screw;
Turn on the device;
Hot water taps are turned on;
The adjusting screw adjusts the pressure in the nozzles;
Put the seal in place.

There are brands that have a special “Winter-Summer” mode with temperature adjustment. This handle was made at the bottom. Adjustment of the Oasis gas water heater is located on the front panel. The peculiarity of the mode is that in winter the power is higher than in summer. The heating power of the liquid in the column is directly related to the temperature of the inlet stream. In winter, the regulator is set to “maximum”, the heating will be at its highest. In summer, the temperature of the inlet flow is higher and is set to the minimum position. This saves resources.

It is easy to remove bad pressure when checking.

To do this, you must perform the following manipulations if the device has already been used:

Pay attention to the rubber membrane. The performance of this part is directly related to the pressure in the line

At the moment the integrity of the membrane is broken, namely when it is exhausted, gas does not flow and the burner does not turn on. The problem is solved by replacing the part. Pay attention to the mesh filter. It is located at the entrance to the water block. The water pressure becomes lower due to debris clogging the part. The problem is solved by cleaning.

Features of operation

There are a number of provisions and rules according to which the use of gas equipment is permitted. Let's consider the basic requirements for open-type speakers:

Do not start work in the absence of draft in the chimney or in the presence of reverse draft;
It is not allowed to turn on and ignite without studying the operating instructions;
For normal operation, natural ventilation is necessary (window, vent);
It is prohibited to independently change the design of the equipment.

Dispensers with an open combustion chamber are most at risk of gas leakage. If you smell it, then:

Close the valve;
Open the windows and ventilate the room;
Do not light a fire until the room is completely ventilated;
Contact the repair service.

Before starting the appliance, check the presence of draft in the chimney.

How to properly check

There are two “folk” ways of checking:

Take a piece of paper and hold it near the chimney or ventilation. If the leaf tightens, it means the shaft is working properly. If it falls, you need to clean the hole.
Light a match and bring it to the viewing window. Does the flame deviate to the side? Then you can start the column. If it burns smoothly, check the chimney.

It also happens that everything is in order with the mine, but there is no traction. The room may not be ventilated, so there is no air flow for combustion.

How to turn on the water heater

Before turning on any equipment, there must be water in the heat exchanger. Therefore, you should first open the water valve.

Electric models:

Insert batteries into the battery compartment;
In some cases, you need to turn the power or temperature switch;
Open the gas valve;
Turn on the mixer on the hot position, which will ignite.

Semi-automatic devices:

Start the fuel supply;
Set the power and hold the piezo ignition button until the wick ignites;
When you turn on the water, the burner will light up.

It is not difficult to launch modern technology. What about an old-style product?

Ignition of an obsolete type column

A device with manual ignition is considered obsolete. The design provides for constant burning of the wick and manual shutdown. Ignition occurs from a burning match, less often - using piezo ignition. These include: “Iskra KGI-56”, series L, GVA, VPG. They are equipped with a turn signal or lever to regulate the temperature.

The operating principle is the same as that of modern models. The only difference is in the features of turning on the heating. If this is your first time launching, then you should know that:

There must be a constant flow of air in the room with the column

This is important to keep the flame burning. Therefore, in kitchen doors there is a gap of 5 cm at the bottom

If plastic windows are installed, a ventilation valve is required; It is necessary to regularly check for traction; Check the condition of the gas valve. Open it and coat the joints with soapy water. If bubbles appear, there is a leak.

For ignition, it is more convenient to use long matches that can easily reach the igniter.

Launch of KGI-56

Turn the fuel and water valves. Now turn the left control all the way to the left. Hold down the solenoid valve button if the product has one. Continuing to press the button, ignite the igniter with a match. After that:

Open the hot water faucet;
To light the burner, turn the other knob to the left.

Done, you can go take a shower.

Switching on devices of type L, GVA, VPG

Start as with other types by supplying gas and water. Move the knob on the panel to the first position. Press the valve release button and hold a match to the igniter. Hold the button for another 10 seconds. Just as in the first case, turn on the tap and quickly turn the regulator to the maximum level. After ignition, you can start using it.

You can turn off the equipment by turning the lever until the wick goes out. It is advisable to do this at night and before leaving home.

Use your water heater correctly for long service life and your own safety. Once a year, carry out preventive inspections of the product, clean the parts from scale.

Unfortunately, the domestic housing and communal services system still leaves much to be desired and does not fully provide for the consumer, so people have to rely on their own strength and install additional devices in heating and water supply systems. For example, purchase geysers.

Why doesn't the Astra gas water heater light up?

Why the Astra gas water heater does not light up, we will describe the reasons and ways to eliminate them using the example of model 8910 15 automatic, with electric ignition.

The gas and water shut-off valves located in front of the device are closed - open the valves.
There are no or low batteries in the battery compartment; you need to insert or replace the batteries.
Oxidation of the contacts of the battery pack or batteries - clean the contacts.
There is no draft in the chimney. This happens when the chimney is clogged. To check, hold a lit candle to the air duct. With good draft, the candle flame should go out; if it does not even deviate, you need to clean the chimney. The draft can be checked using a sheet of newsprint; it should deviate towards the air duct.

Checking traction

Low water pressure can be due to a number of factors. The first reason is low line pressure; only installing a pump will save you. The filter in front of the water unit of the device or the filter on the faucet mixer may be clogged.

Rinse with a brush with stiff bristles under a strong stream of water; if they are heavily clogged with lime deposits, the filters must be replaced. The next factor may be scale inside the heat exchanger. Unscrew the bolts and remove the heat exchanger. Prepare a solution of citric acid, 100 grams per liter of water, immerse the heat exchanger there, leave for several hours, then rinse thoroughly. For these purposes, you can use special anti-scale agents.
Violation of the integrity of the rubber membrane. You can check this yourself without resorting to the help of specialists. It is enough to remove the casing of the device; there is a membrane in the water block. If it is deformed or torn, it needs to be replaced. Astra speaker membrane The silicone membrane is more durable in use. When installing a new one, you should be careful not to tear it; to do this, you must initially tighten the bolts that are opposite each other. You can do this type of repair yourself.
The contacts of the electrical circuit are broken - check the connections, if a fault is found, fix it.
Incorrect water or gas adjustment. If the water line pressure is low and the toggle switch is set to maximum, the device will go out. Make adjustments appropriate to the pressure.
Stickiness or oxidation of the rod. After disconnecting the microswitch, release the rod; if it is oxidized, clean and lubricate it.

Astra column water assembly rod

The microswitch is broken. Cannot be repaired, must be replaced.
The control unit is faulty and cannot be repaired and needs to be replaced.
The solenoid valve is not working and needs to be replaced.
No contact between thermocouple and solenoid valve. If, after checking the serviceability of the thermocouple, it turns out that everything is fine with it, it is necessary to clean the contacts.
The design of the igniter not adjusted to the existing gas pressure is the reason that the unit does not ignite immediately. The electrode is initially mounted so that the spark hits the comb, which is attached to the edge of the gas burner, approximately 12 mm from its edge. If the gas supply is adjusted to low pressure, gas comes out in small quantities and at low speed. A backdraft always forms inside the device and the gas flows under its pressure down the device, not reaching the spark. This is corrected by bending the electrode from the comb to a level where the spark does not fall on the comb, but exactly in the center of the burner. After these measures, the unit ignites quickly, stably and softly.
The traction control sensor is broken - to check its functionality you need to ring it by connecting two terminals. If it is working, the device will show infinity, otherwise the sensor needs to be replaced.
Gaps have formed between the joints of the air duct pipe, or between the device pipe and the pipe elbows. Use heat-resistant sealing tape to eliminate gaps.
If there is no spark during ignition and a cracking sound is heard, the microswitch may be faulty. You can check its performance by short-circuiting it. First you need to remove the unit body, unscrew the bolts, and remove the handles. There is a microswitch at the bottom. If you turn on the hot water valve, the mic button is released by a lever; if this does not happen, it should be pryed off with a screwdriver and lubricated with oil. If after this ignition does not occur, the microswitch must be changed.
In a situation where there is a spark, there is a click, there is no ignition, the solenoid valve is to blame, it cannot be repaired, it must be replaced.

Solenoid valve
There is no spark, no click, no crackling sound, and at the same time it is verified that the microswitch is working properly, you need to check the electronic ignition unit, and if it is faulty, replace it, since repair is almost impossible.

There are situations when the water heater does not light up immediately, but with some delay. The main reason in this case is contamination of the device. It is necessary to clean the inside of the unit from dust, soot, and soot. Pay special attention to the nozzles and jet.

When using Astra speakers (model 8910RE) with matches ignition, the following ignition problems may occur:

Astra 8910 RE

The main burner ignites with a noisy bang: firstly, due to low gas pressure, the gas supply needs to be adjusted. Secondly, due to clogging of the plug hole and the igniter nozzle, the situation can be corrected by cleaning the plug hole and the nozzle.
The main burner and pilot burner do not ignite partly for the reasons listed above, there may be other reasons, for example: contamination of the pilot burner. Over time or if contaminated gas is used, it becomes covered with soot and soot.
If the wick does not burn, this means that the igniter nozzle is clogged with soot; the igniter burner needs to be cleaned. Repairing gas equipment with your own hands is dangerous; this should be done by professionals.
With your own hands, you can only remove the soot located inside the burner jets using thin copper wire, and clean the outside with a brush with metal bristles. After this, you need to check the connections for gas leaks by covering them with soap foam.

Malfunctions not related to the repair of the gas components of the unit can be eliminated independently, but where the problem is related to gas, the intervention of specialists is required.

Does water pressure affect the performance of the column?

The reason why the equipment does not ignite may be low water pressure in the supply water supply. This is easy to check; you just need to open the cold water tap at the sink. If you see that the pressure is weak, then this is the reason. But if the pressure is excellent, then the problem of the malfunction lies in the water unit of the gas device itself. Most likely, the filters are clogged or the special membrane is deformed. In some cases, the hot water supply tap becomes clogged and becomes covered with scale from the inside.

In very rare cases, the cause of low pressure is a deep cleaning filter, which is installed additionally. How to fix the problem? If the cold water supply pressure is very weak in the general water supply system, you need to call the utility services to find out why this is happening. If the column does not light up due to the fact that the filters are clogged, then they should be removed and washed using special means.

If the filters are heavily soiled, they need to be replaced, as cleaning them is no longer useful. If the hot water pipes are clogged, you need to call a technician who can clean them; you do not need to do this work yourself. If the membrane is deformed, there is no need to try to straighten it; you need to purchase a new one and install it. If the column becomes clogged with combustion products and soot, turn it off, then remove the casing and clean its components from traces of soot.

The column refuses to light up when turned on or goes out immediately, due to the fact that the supply of cold or hot water is not adjusted. In this case, there is no need to try to dilute the hot water by increasing the flow of cold water, as this will lead to a gradual attenuation of the flame and the column turning off. Such incorrect actions lead to a reduction in the service life of the device. It is also necessary to correctly adjust all the taps during installation; if you cannot do this yourself, then it is better to call a specialist.

How long can it take to turn over a gas water heater for metal?

In most cases, copper, from which heat exchangers in heating equipment are made, belongs to the category of low-quality metals. But despite this, selling scrap to collection points can be quite profitable.

The price largely depends on how much metal is in the gas water heater. Among other factors influencing the cost of non-ferrous metal, it is worth noting:

compliance of the alloy with the established standard;
percentage of blockage;
the presence or absence of steel or brass elements in structures;
presence or absence of contamination.

The composition of the alloy is determined using a special chemical analysis, which is carried out by specialists at reception points.